MoD Police cut plans 'will cost lives'

25 October 2011

Ministry of Defence Police
The Ministry of Defence could be looking to halve the numbers of MoD Police officers in a move that 'will put lives at risk', the MoD Police staff association has warned.

The Defence Police Federation (DPF) said consultations that have been taking place throughout the year could lead to the halving of staff numbers and reduced security at British defence establishments.

DPF national chairman Eamon Keating has said further cuts to the MoD Police would ultimately cost lives, and asked for defence ministers to publicly acknowledge their involvement in any cuts decision so that they may be held to account later.

Earlier this year the MoD proposed cuts to the MoD Police budget of 35 per cent, but the MoD Police have since been asked to cut an extra 15 per cent, Keating told Defencemanagment.com.

"When they put their figures together [after Planning Round '11] the 35 - along with all the other departments - wasn't going to make the grade. So we're now looking at a 50 per cent reduction in our budget," he said.

With around 90 per cent of the MoD Police budget spent on manpower, personnel numbers would take the majority of the hit, Keating said

"There are some efficiencies that can be made in some locations but we had pretty much stripped those down already after the 2009 planning rounds," he said. "We've been under review consistently for the last ten years and we've stripped out pretty much everything we can from the support side."

Keating said the MoD may be looking to increase its reliance on the Military Provost Guard Service to protect bases, but that that the loss of policing skills would cost security.

"I think it [the MoD] believes that publicly it can replace police officers with soldiers. On the face of it the guns will still be there so it will give a feeling of security, but in actual fact it's not the firearms that do the job. We protect establishments from the outside in," he said.

"Having police officers there means we can get out into the local community, we can work alongside the local constabularies and local people, residents, and create a layered approach that means anyone even coming to have a look at one of these establishments would risk being seen and caught. So they just avoid them at all costs.

"We are linked in with all the national intelligence databases. We gather intelligence, we stop and speak to people, we work with the local married quarters estates, the local communities, the councils and there is an acceptance when you see a police officer with a black and white chequered band.

"If you put a military guard in you get a military response, which is highly aggressive as a reaction but isn't very proactive. Our military are world leaders in what they do but they are not designed to do what we do. They have their role and we have ours."

A Ministry of Defence spokesman said: "A range of options for the MoD's future requirement for civil policing and security services is currently under consideration and no final decisions have yet been taken.

"MoD attaches very high importance to safeguarding its people, information and assets, and the ability to deliver its operational and other outputs. We will continue to maintain effective and proportionate levels of security at all sites."

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25 October 2011

Another example of the government not giving a fig about the defence of the nation,its assets and dependants.An easy way for them to use Defence as a way of making massive budget savings without having the intelligence of foresight to understand what they are storing up for all of us in the future.I consider that not only defence ministers should be held to account as suggested by Mr.Keating but also and possibly mainly those at the top table,namely Messrs Cameron,Osbourne and Clegg.
Howard - Farnborough,Hants,UK.

26 October 2011

Mr Clegg stated recently that there would be no cuts to front line Community Policing did he also mean the MOD Police? I did email him but he failed to answer.
Dave - Hampshjire

27 October 2011

There will be a shortage of armed police officers for the 2012 Olympic games. Shame MoD police are not involved, as it would raise their profile in a good way.
John Hartley - Woking/Surrey/UK

09 December 2011

Are the general public aware of what the government intend to do and the legalities of having MPGS patrol men on public highways with firearms? The MPGS are ulimately accountable to the Miltary authorities, and are not subjected to any independent scrutinty such as the IPCC
john - north yorkshire

19 December 2011

The MOD Police are our only truely national police force. Their capabilities in respect of firearms, public order and counter terrorism have always been under utilised. Their abilities should be exploited to the full in theses dangerous and uncertain times. Cuts to these highly trained individuals is the last thing the country needs.
Paul - Wiltshire

04 April 2012

A small number of MDP personnel are engaged in protecting the United Kingdom's 'National Assets' both locally and nationally and justify their pay and conditions. However, many more are employed on tasks that can be covered by civilians (Guard Service,) Local Constabularies and service personnel. At some locations the immediate availability of a police presence may be required but that can be achieved by defining what requires an immediate police presence and engage less personnel.

MDP benefit from National Police pay and conditions and also enjoy many of the Civil Service conditions, including good sick pay and pensions.

The cost of recruiting, training, clothing, equipping, including specialist equipment and providing embellished vehicles together with premises, telephones and information technology for the current number of MDP cannot be justified any more in 2012 than twenty years ago.

The problem is the MDP have for a number of years been pricing themselves out of the market by attempting to adopt, within service families environments, a local constabulary role in the community.

In essence the MDP should be deployed where local constabularies, service personnel and Civilian Guards cannot or are unable to provide the expertise, skills and knowledge that the MDP have. That includes CID investigations.
GST - Scotland