
10 October 2012
Overall, good news. I'd agree with Murphy's view (despite the dubious nature of his party's disastrous years in charge).
However, I feel that BAE is too big and too diverse. I would like to see shipbuilding in particular managed by another British business with a focus only on that market. I feel this would lead to greater potential for international sales in the way that Vosper and Vickers used to do in the past.
A salient point about this deal was that the only synergy repeatedly referred to was civil/defence aviation assets. This in itself points to the fact that BAE should perhaps be focused in this area and other British companies should handle other areas.
Focused companies are always more successful than those which have grown too fat.
Michael - Hertfordshire
10 October 2012
Why executives at BAe cannot see that what is needed is to somehow by hook or by crook regain a foothold in commercial and civil aviation so as not to depend wholly on the military and defence sectors which as i have said before history tells us is only ever a temporary increase.
Pardon my sceptism but now that the deal is not presently going through i wouild not be surprised to learn in the not too distant future that negotiations have been completed behind closed doors away from the media glare and this is great news for britain for europe and for jobs.
andy - solihull
10 October 2012
The board of BAE made a big mistake when they decided to pull out of civil aircraft and concentrate soley on defence, thinking that future prosperity was going to be based around continuing big orders from the MoD and the Pentagon. In these days of global cuts in military spending however, unlike BOEING and EADS with full order books for airliners, BAE is finding itself running low on military orders. Returning to civil aircraft is unlikely to happen, as setting up new design teams and production facilities would take many years to accomplish. Therefore, unless the Government gives some urgent support to BAE with new defence contracts, they will continue to scrabble around looking for a another company with which to merge or link-up with.
MikeyB - Merseyside
10 October 2012
GOOD.
JC - UK
11 October 2012
The future??:
Considering the purported logic for EADS' failed takeover of BAE was to balance BAE's over-reliance on military with EADS' mainly civilian products & services, then BAE WOULD NOT BE A GOOD FIT WITH 1 OF THE US's DEFENCE GIANTS... unless of course there is an- unspoken- BAE board of directors' objective to create the false appearance of justifiable reasons (redundancies) to substantially downsize/close many of BAE's existing facilities!!
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Rather than, in effect, allowing BAE to be cannibalized by another countries' defence firm(s)- with BAE's currently not-highly/un-profitable divisions substantially shrunk/closed/moved out of the UK- wouldn't a more appropriate strategy be for BAE, the UK govt- & reps of UK aerospace business associations- to be strategizing how BAE could better balance its portfolio of products and services by acquiring UK- and overseas- non-military- IE: civilian- companies???
Bombardier, Thales, Finmeccanica, (parts of) Hitachi, Kawasaki, Hyundai & many other global companies make better strategic fits with BAE than EADS or Northrup, Lockheed, etc!!
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Instead of being taken over & dismembered, BAE would benefit from competent, far-sighted international corporate partners- along with UK govt (& international Sovereign Wealth Fund?) investments- to further develop, DIVERSIFY & market its portfolio of products & services, particularly its green technologies & public/commercial transit types*...
* BAE Systems HybriDrive® hybrid electric drive propulsion system
Roderick V. Louis - Vancouver, BC, Canada
11 October 2012
Michael, have to agree, is BAE another company "too big" to fail? Splitting off certain business areas into other UK companies would be an excellent start, perhaps coupled with a clear and guaranteed UK defence order book boosted by money moved from the foreign aid slush fund... If high tech manufacturing is the UK's future then this is a no brainer....
Matt - Herts
11 October 2012
BAE's strategy of selling off/closing its UK manufacturing capability and expanding through foreign acquisitions has failed- it needs to invest in new UK capability and new markets- how about taking a stake in Reaction Engines?
Ian Skinner - Enfield
11 October 2012
I have to agree with Roderick on a possible tie up with Finmeccanica and/or perhaps Bombardier.
The biggest mistake BAE has made was selling the 20% stake in Airbus if they could buy that back it would be best of all if its even possible.
Graham - High Wycombe
11 October 2012
andy - solihull
Makes sense to me, start building Commercial aircraft again, these may lead to other Military spin off aircraft, MPA, tankers, transport as well as cvil airliners.
Rob - Telford