MoD won't commit to Astute schedule

Tuesday, June 09, 2009

The Astute class submarine programme's timetable is under review according to the MoD and an announcement is expected soon.

Minister for defence equipment and support Quentin Davies refused to answer a question yesterday on whether the four submarines on order and the other three planned Astutes would be delivered on time.

HMS Astute is scheduled to be commissioned later this year while Ambush is expected next year. Artful and Audacious are scheduled for commissioning in 2012 and 2013 respectively.

The programme suffered major delays at the start of the decade as BAE encountered major staff shortages in its submarine programme. The resulting delays have put the project £1bn over budget.

Last year BAE and the MoD said they were launching a review into the programme to determine "how best to minimise the impact on the programme". BAE officials at the time said they were confident the subs were on schedule.

HMS Astute suffered minor fire damage earlier this year but BAE Submarine Solutions officials have insisted that despite damage to some of the communications systems, there would not be a delay in the commissioning of the sub.

Davies confirmed that an announcement was pending, telling MPs that: "The Astute programme is currently being re-baselined and I will make an announcement in due course."

Some maritime procurement officials have pointed out that it would make sense to slightly delay the programme to ensure that there is consistent submarine work at the Barrow yard. The current schedule of work could result in a minor gap between the Astutes and the Vanguard replacement programme.

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They will probably sell it anyway. or divert the rest of them to Saudi Arabia
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DON'T BUILD ASTUTES SLOWER- BUILD 'MORE'!!

Why delay the currently projected build-programme for (4) Astutes- substantially less than the (8) Labour committed to in 2001)- when instead, govt committments to the construction of the needed (12) or more Astutes over the next 10-years would ensure that there is consistent submarine work at the Barrow yard- up to and during the commencement of the (Vanguard replacement) new-Trident-system submarine programme??

Who knows, maybe if this approach were taken, BVT/Vosper/BAE and other UK naval-engineering & construction companies could leverage their increased business and resulting (if done right) experience into foreign contracts for non-nuclear submarines/vessels...

If France and Germany can get away with heavily subsidizing their ship-building firms, and, obtain contracts world-wide for non-nuclear submarines, the UK ought to at least put in place policies/spending programmes so that it can compete...

Roderick V. Louis,
Vancouver, BC, Canada,
ceo@patientempowermentsociety.com
Roderick V. Louis - ceo@patientempowermentsociety.com

1 TRILLION POUNDS CAN BE FOUND TO RESCUE THE UK's INSOLVENT BANKS BUT THE UK ALLEGEDLY 'CAN'T AFFORD TO DEFEND ITSELF'- BUNK!!!"

Whatever the state of US-Russian relations, the United Kingdom is likely to be back-stopping the US as it has done, productively, for decades following WW II...

In pondering how the UK ought to be approaching Russia in coming decades & in deliberating the possible future size/equipping of the UK's Armed Forces, UK politicians & bureaucrats would do well looking back in history- particularly to the pre-WW II period...

It was only, barely, 6 years between 1933 when Hitler and his Nazi party gained control of then Germany's governmental structures and 1939 when the world was plunged headlong into WW II...

Because there is a comparative calm upon the world today in terms of dangerously oppositional relationships between the world's present great powers is not reliable-logic or trustable-evidence that today's situation could not change overnight:

1) Russia is reactivating two of its retired Typhoon SSBNs:

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsub/articles/20090703.aspx

2) Russia Might Complete Bulava Flight Tests in 2009:

http://www.globalsecuritynewswire.org/gsn/nw_20090618_6389.php

3) Russia Set to Build New Nuclear-Armed Submarine:

http://www.globalsecuritynewswire.org/gsn/nw_20090626_8028.php

4) Russia to build eight nuclear submarines:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3124166/Russia-t...

5) President Medvedev visited Sevmash, inspected "Yury Dolgoruky":

http://www.barentsobserver.com/president-medvedev-visited-sevmash-inspec...

6) State-of-the-art nuclear submarines to the Russian Navy:

http://www.barentsobserver.com/index.php?id=4608935

7) Russia to lay down 2nd Graney class nuclear sub in July:

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20090625/155349485.html

"...Under the Russian State Arms Procurement Program for 2007-2015, the Navy will receive several dozen surface ships and submarines, including five Project 955 Borey nuclear-powered strategic ballistic missile submarines equipped with new Bulava ballistic missiles, two Project 885 Yasen nuclear-powered multipurpose submarines, six Project 677 Lada diesel-electric submarines, three Project 22350 frigates and five Project 20380 corvettes."

A United Kingdom with an adaquate-sized Astute class submarine fleet (IE- (16) or more- not just (4) as is currently planned) & a new generation Trident missile & nuclear submarine fleet/delivery system- even if never used in war- is still a better off country than one which, in effect, decides to disrobe itself on-the-world-stage and invite the savage beasts of the international foreign-policy jungle to afternoon tea...

If anything, planning proposals for the next generation of UK Trident are too modest: the proposed new nuclear missile carrying submarines are significantly undersized and would carry far too few Trident missiles...

The UK ought to be developing both its missile system and new-model ICBM carrying nuclear submarines jointly with the United States, which also is in planning stages to replace its present Trident missile/nuclear submarine system...

The US's new Trident-missile carrying submarines will each be able to be armed with double the number of Trident-missiles the UK's proposed new Trident submarines will... in their current form...

Roderick V. Louis,
Vancouver, BC, Canada,
ceo@patientempowermentsociety.com
Roderick V. Louis - Vancouver, BC, Canada,